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AwfulLottaAwfulThings 7/17/2018 5:45 PM
@kw I want to make my tulpa as real as possible, but I don't want to see any false claims as "progress"
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Everything to do with your tulpa takes place in your brain. If it is anything, it's your brain thinking there is some other feeling there.
8:06 PM
At how early you are in the process, and considering you said you weren't going to rush into things, I highly doubt it's your tulpa.
8:07 PM
Especially if you weren't forcing at the time (specifically interacting with your tulpa with the intent to develop)
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AwfulLottaAwfulThings 7/17/2018 9:08 PM
@Smeer At that moment, I was trying to force by only talking about past events. But I agree that it most likely wasn't the tulpa. What are some signs you guys had in the beginning?
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Deleted User 7/17/2018 9:09 PM
Hmmz
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Early on, I made sure to take note of what it felt like when I knew I was fabricating a response, even if it wasn't on purpose. Then, I eventually started getting responses that felt incredibly different. Sometimes waves of intense emotion, sometimes raw thought with no language attached. Always while I'm talking to her, never out of nowhere.
9:10 PM
Nothing is for sure, but I'm pretty confident those times were my tulpa.
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Deleted User 7/17/2018 9:14 PM
When I first became acquainted with Shadow/Zack... I can't really describe it.. Back 10 years ago he was nothing more that an invisible entity that I would just talk to without getting responses back. But then he slowly began to talk to me and when the years went on, he began to talk more and now we talk like... all the time. There was a moment of a friend and being manipulated causing me to have problems on who's voice to trust to be Shadow/Zack's but that was resolved.
9:17 PM
But this was just something that just happened. I didn't use any guides etc. because well... I didn't know anything about such resources.
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AwfulLottaAwfulThings 7/17/2018 10:23 PM
I've heard from online friends that their tulpas developed a crush on them. Is this a possibility?
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tulpas have feelings of their own, so yes that is something that can happen
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Tulpas can have crushes, sure.
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Shadow/Zack and I are in a relationship and have been for years and plenty of people have relationships with their headmates. (edited)
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Yes, though I would say it is not much like being in a relationship with another person.
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is doing nothing but narrating to them good enough
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Yes
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I guess it depends on the experience... I've been in physical relationships before as well as non-physical ones so I really can't say for myself of there being much of a difference besides the obvious. Sure, I can physically see Shadow but we still go to the movies, eat together etc. despite that. Though, Shadow and I have a more deeper relationship than it being just a romantic one so there's that. (edited)
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I would say in response to that, that I think your thoughts on reality are deluded enough to convince you that it is a close match to being in a relationship with another person. What I mean is that in reality you should be able to share memories, and know what the other is thinking constantly, if desired, so there is no element of surprise to the relationship. I would also add that knowing everything about a person, down to the last detail without ever needing to vocalize it is very strange, indeed.
thonkmorph 1
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.-.
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None of us have any romantic interest in each other
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Shadow and Beelzemon were dating before in my system.
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my system is tight.
12:20 AM
snoogles
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In active forcing, Do I have to say the same thing daily like about her personalities, likes, dislikes, etc?
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I would recommend varying what you do/say
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So I have to do some unique approach to it everyday?
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No, you just have to think about some to do/say
12:42 AM
You could build something with your tulp
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you just have to be actively doing something with your tulpa, that's pretty much it
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You can do pretty much whatever, but if you do the same thing all the time then it will get boring
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It can be as simple as narrating what you're doing, it doesn't need to be particularly special as long as the focus is on your tulpa.
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FRONT: Effectively, the body. It is the place from which system members experience the world-at-large, or outerworld. Most experience it differently from each other, but it is the place from which a member lives in and interacts with the physical world. It is also a verb meaning to control the body (see fronting).
3:07 AM
found this on tulpa.io
3:07 AM
i dont get what it means
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Breloomancer 7/18/2018 3:08 AM
Fronting is a catch all term for when the tulpa controls the body
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 3:08 AM
Like say for example me taking over Rachel's body and lift weights (edited)
3:08 AM
When I front, sometimes Rachel can appear to be a different person.
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Ohh, alright, thanks.
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When is the right time where I can parrot a tulpa?
6:10 AM
some people said that parroting is only needed when your tulpa says so
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parroting is never necessary, but it is capable of helping a tulpa develop vocality
illuminati 2
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By the way, is Passive Forcing and Parroting is the same if your a beginner?
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not at all
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 6:52 AM
It would be almost closer to active forcing instead of passive, because parroting is almost always in intentional
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passive is not totally paying attention to 'em
6:52 AM
parroting should probably entail focusing on them
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 6:53 AM
But it isn't really forcing in much sense beyond developing vocality
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or personality tbh
6:53 AM
if you're talkin' for them you could be like, personality forcing based on thinking of what they'd respond to stuff with
6:53 AM
etc.
6:54 AM
some people said that parroting is only needed when your tulpa says so this is the most backwards mixed up thing I've heard about tulpas
6:54 AM
like ever
6:55 AM
if your tulpa is vocal and can speak to you then just don't parrot them
6:55 AM
not worth, will only cause problems
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 6:55 AM
I still remember when my host was so crazy scared of accidentally parroting me and it frustrated the hell outta me xP
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yeh best to stay away from parroting altogether usually
6:56 AM
IT isn't bad but it usually makes people paranoid (parrotnoid) about their tulpa's vocality
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 6:56 AM
I never got how it was supposed to help tulpas talk
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teachin' your brain what a tulpa should sound like
6:56 AM
but it makes it hard for a lot of people to tell when their tup is actually talking once they're vocal
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 6:56 AM
But once we got over our parrotnoia I could speak fine, it was just a matter of tuning the dials after that
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best to avoid
6:57 AM
also the terms passive and active forcing don't matter anyway
6:57 AM
just categories to put things under
6:57 AM
the difference in passive and active forcing is if you're actually focusing on just your tulpa or if they're more of a passive part of what you're doing
6:58 AM
you don't need people to tell you which you're doing..
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so like, as a beginner, if i passive force and i ask a question, do i just think about what i want them to answer?
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 7:00 AM
umm...
7:00 AM
It's just making a headmate's presence more stronger; passive forcing would just be asking them the question and expecting a response, or waiting for one, really
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or I should be talking to them first with statements that doesn't involve questions?
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 7:01 AM
Ask questions! Just don't always expect replies and don't force replies out of them
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thinking about how they might sound if they were to speak can indeed help
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@Srn347 alright ill take that note, thanks
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hello im new to this tulpa thing i havent done one yet but id like to know about it what is the benefit of having a tulpa can anyone please tell me?
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 7:20 AM
Having a long life friend, or lover like Rachel and I, or even a family member. A very strong companionship can come from it.
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Hello.
7:21 AM
A tulpa is a companion - they aren't quite like another type of companion, but the closest comparison I would draw is to a roommate - which can have other relationship types in addition.
7:21 AM
The difference is that the "room" is the body.
7:21 AM
As for specific benefits, they can provide a different perspective on some things. They can provide some additional emotional support if necessary.
7:22 AM
They can be a companion and help with loneliness (though not as much as another, physically separate person can).
7:22 AM
Quite frankly, though - making a tulpa isn't exactly something one should do for the purpose of utility.
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well i see and what you saying about tulpa it sounds nice to have but to start i dont know
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I would certainly recommend starting by making sure you understand clearly m what a tulpa is, why exactly you want one, and whether you are willing and ready for the responsibility that comes with making one.
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take your time to decide, it is a permanent commitment as they do stick around for life
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It isn't precisely permanent, but for practical purposes it certainly is - and it is best to make the decision keeping that idea in mind either way. You have plenty of time to decide if you want to, but once you do have a developed tulpa it isn't quite as easy to decide against it at that point.
7:27 AM
At the very least, it is certainly likely to have a permanent impact on your life.
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so like, as a beginner, if i passive force and i ask a question, do i just think about what i want them to answer? why's it gotta be passive lol
7:27 AM
if you're focusing on forcing then it's active!
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 7:27 AM
@Srn347 , It can be a permanent commitment but sometimes tulpas dissipate and bonds dissolve. I recommend thinking it over anyway since it might not be easy to dissipate tulpa on purpose though.
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passive forcing ain't gonna go that far when you're beginning
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 7:29 AM
I think some people might think that active forcing requires spending time with your tulpa in the mindscape.
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and is this safe?
7:32 AM
and the tulpa to chose it has to be close to me
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yes, making a tulpa is entirely safe
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Making a tulpa is safe if you make them with consideration, respect, and kindness. In other words, establish a positive relationship with them, and they will treat you positively in turn.
7:38 AM
If you treat them negatively, and they respond negatively, then you could end up with problems - but then, that is akin to saying "if you use a pneumatic drill on your hand, you may not have one anymore".
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Deleted User 7/18/2018 7:41 AM
It's hard to prove it's entirely safe in my opinion. But people sometimes have natural imaginary companions and they aren't considered dangerous.
7:41 AM
...>_>
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ok so.. how can i start
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